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So the subject of wether we need more moderators or not recently came up with the staffers and at least three people came to mind, but now since recent behaviour from the candidates has basically put a kibosh on that we basically think we need someone else.

We have enough moderators here but the guys who are actually mods are posting less and less and I need more help. And to be honest you guys are making a mockery of most of the rules and as of today I have noticed a ton of BS posts flooding the forums. This is not coming from people who come on every so often but people WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER and WHO HAVE MORE TIME TO MOST.

I'm writing this in Notepad, at work REALLY QUICK but I still have to make sure my post is not just a one sentence dribble of a reply.

Basically, moderation on the forums – do we need more and anyone have any suggestions to curb this sh!t, because warning you doesn’t seem to stop you.

Also BS replies to this topic, in jest or not post will be deleted.

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Yes, I do believe we need more moderators but the people I can think of either don't post enough anymore or have started posting BS recently. The warning system needs to change a bit, on another forum I go on the warning system is you get 1 warning for the first offense, 3 day ban for 2nd, 2 weeks for third and if you break the rules again within 2 months you get a perma-ban.

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Hm, moderation levels seem to be ok to me...almost always a mod on. I think its perhaps more a problem of spam posts and topics not being dealt with than there not being enough mods on to deal with the problems. Use the infractions, lock topics, etc. I think we have enough mods as it is to take care of that stuff. But one or two more wouldn't be overload either.

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Im not really sure on this matter, actually.

Yeah, there are alotta people who take this place a little too lightheartedly. I dont think its a case of more mods, or more punishments, but then, Im not the one looking bad by the other posters (and hell, probally am one of the dodgy bastards).

Also, on that note, who from here would you give mod powers too? I think you've allready got most of the more... "relyable" members.

Maybe give Lifetime members light moderation abilities?
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That could be a good idea. Lifetime members could have some kind of extra powers...hey, they are pretty unlikely to abuse them, plus it could be handy having a couple of extra hands to get rid of the hardcore porn topics that come up from time to time >_>. The powers could always be taken away if they don't use them properly anyway.

Out of curiosity, what kind of things are you referring to anyway? The forums seem much the same as normal to me.

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We probably do need some more mods.
Whether or not it will do anything to diminish the flow of throw-aways, I don't know.
I know I'm guilty of some throw-away posts that I look back at and think "wow... why did I bother posting that?"
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Just a small scurge of scummy posts leaking into a few threads, people not taking the topic the right way and derailing it into something else. People are also who I know who have more time and are not at work just dribbling posts with drivel when they could actually add to the discussion. I mean why post crap and waste your time just don't post.

Taking a quick look at the board right at this second there is me on only that has moderator powers and I am at work so I can really only moderate so much. Basically I do we think we have enough mods just that they are not on enough to cover it all, so more couldn't hurt its just a matter of whom.

As dumbyugi said the warning system might need a change but then we gotta be sure we moderate right or end up like some other boards who certain members can get away with certain things and others not.

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the warning system is you get 1 warning for the first offense, 3 day ban for 2nd, 2 weeks for third and if you break the rules again within 2 months you get a perma-ban.

And then all the fun members would be gone and this place would be boring, seems like a great idea.

I don't think we need more mods or to change anything, I like it how it is. If this place turned into a strict place I'd be very disappointed.
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Well it couldn't be me, I've been mostly off-forums for the past few days... right? *wipes sweat from brow*

Ahem, just get a bit more stricter TBH. I know a few mods can be a little lazy when it comes to specific warnings, ie PMing wrongdoers or making a post. Then again maybe they just don't have time, so maybe I'm saying this wrongly...

Maybe a new mod or two wouldn't hurt though.

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Well, I'm not too sure, since i've only been on the forums for a short time. But heres my opinion anyway.

Maybe we could add around two more mods, I reckon 5-6 should be around the max for any forum, there is the occasional spam that hasn't been deleted/whatever but I'm sure most people don't mind.

The way the forum is now, i'm fine with, if it only got a little stricter i would also be fine with it.

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Replace warnings with temp (one week, fortnight) bans.

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I'm on agreement with Spiral here. 1-2 more mods certainly wouldn't hinder the system and assuming they stick to the job, might be a good way just to tighten things up around the place. I know there have been a couple of instances where I've been on and a nice new viagra thread has popped up, gone to report it to a mod, but none have been online (just bad timing though I suppose).

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So the subject of wether we need more moderators or not recently came up with the staffers and at least three people came to mind, but now since recent behaviour from the candidates has basically put a kibosh on that we basically think we need someone else.

I'm intrigued. Were these people warned?
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Your'll notice we've had absoltely no spam bots on the forums since changing system, not one. I've probably jynxed that now but I had to say it .

And no ENKC these people were not warned, I wouldn't expect their actions from a moderator.

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I nominate trin as the next mod; focussing primarily on spelling and grammar errors.

Ok, joke post aside, I think the mods here do a pretty stand-up job. The problem with some forums is that the moderating staff take their job too seriously, and only participate in conversations to warn or do something official. Here, all of the staff, are just as much a part of conversation as anyone else - the only difference being the colour of their blips.

To curb the shitty posts that do occur, perhaps the content of the post can be edited out and the member warned (as often happens currently). Being a little more strict on short-bans would hopefully help to get the message across about post quality, perhaps 2 warnings in a week is a 2-day ban?

Really though, these forums are some of the most well-maintained I've seen, the staff do their jobs well. I'd much rather see more reviewers/reviews then more mods; but I'm sure that's being worked on already anyway.
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By the sounds of it we do need more moderators but at the same time I don't think we do. I don't post as much but I still lurk when I get the chance and from what I'v seen the conversation hasn't really gone too downhill. Sure theres the derailment every now and again but nothing like full on community wars. I guess this comes too with the fact that it's a busy time for most of us at school or uni. The normal spam threads seem to sink away too which is good. That stupid Hotseat thread hasn't been around for a good while and everyone has given up on romance to whine about. So personally I think we are doing ok.

Then again, if you need daytime mods for "just in case" reasons, then maybe only one. But otherwise most of the traffic in here is from regulars rather then new people who aren't use to the way the place works.

Just put an electric tag on Plasma. The place will get good again.

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Personally I'm a bit too individual to be suited for modding. Somehow I don't think my particular brand of humour would be compatible with trying to moderate other people. It's a tough job that requires forgoing a certain freedom of expression regular members have. This is why I have respect for what the mods have to do, even if I step out of line sometimes.
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I'll add to the voices.

I think 1-2 extra mods wouldn't hurt, as long as they can be trusted.

But mainly, what I believe is the problem would be enforcement. With the exception of major events, the warning system is too lenient. I would support a three strikes and you get temp banned policy (maybe just for a day or three), and once you come back, three more strikes and you get a serious 'please explain' in the form of a ban that you'll need to provide a damned good reason to get removed.

If you manage to get it removed and do one thing wrong within 3 months, welcome to permabansville.
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I'll add to the voices.

I think 1-2 extra mods wouldn't hurt, as long as they can be trusted.

But mainly, what I believe is the problem would be enforcement. With the exception of major events, the warning system is too lenient. I would support a three strikes and you get temp banned policy (maybe just for a day or three), and once you come back, three more strikes and you get a serious 'please explain' in the form of a ban that you'll need to provide a damned good reason to get removed.

If you manage to get it removed and do one thing wrong within 3 months, welcome to permabansville.


That is how it works ._.

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That is how it works ._.


Indeed? So the 100% warning system didn't actually mean anything?

If that's actually how it works, then the actual enforcement of the policy needs to be improved.
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I am under the impression that after so much "%" on your warning, you suffer a ban, then after an increase on the "%" you suffer another ban, then the third time your out.

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This is a serious post, not a joke.

I reckon I would be a good moderator.

Why?

I am on here, like 24/7 7 days a week - unless I am travelling or at work. In fact, I am probably on as much as or even more than VOOK.

Basically, when people go on having a life, I am here, always. There is a very high chance that I will be the first to see a post, and act accordingly.

I understand what VOOK wants. If a thread is going downholl by de-railing, a mod should be able to delete posts that de-rail a topic. That is, under the assumption "deleted" posts are, in fact moved to a place where only mods/admin's can view it. And that they can be restored.

VOOK, is there a particular time that there is no moderator's on? Is that the problem?

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You wouldn't be a good moderator Auna, just because you're on all the time doesn't mean you'd be good at it.

I'm on all the time and theres no chance in hell of me being one. :)
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You wouldn't be a good moderator Auna, just because you're on all the time doesn't mean you'd be good at it.

I'm on all the time and theres no chance in hell of me being one. :)


Probably, but the thing is that I haven't had experience - and I wouldn't know what to do (now that is :sneaky: ).

Come to thing of it, the only responsible person I know left on the board is frog_brothers_ink, but I haven't seen him in months.
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